Want More Engine Operating Info

Add a Pair of Gauges

 

By:  Andy Wiedeman

Member of the Rocky Mountain A’s of Colorado

May  20, 2008

 

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Introduction.. 1

Why Add Water Temperature and Oil Pressure Gauges?. 1

Why Write this Article?. 2

Types of Water Temperature and Oil Pressure Gauges.. 2

Water Temperature Gauges. 3

Oil Pressure Gauge. 3

Reproduction Gauges.. 4

Mounting Options.. 5

How to Interface to the Water Temperature Gauge. 7

Problems with Installation.. 8

 

Introduction

 

The Model A as delivered from the factory did not have any means of monitoring the operational parameters of the engine as the car was being driven.  The most common desired measurements desired in the early days were water temperature and oil pressure. Many Model A owners during the production years, and afterward added temperature and oil pressure gauges using aftermarket gauges and devices manufactured by several companies.  Nothing much has changed, we all still want to know “what’s going on in the engine?”  Many restorations, over the years, have included the addition of water temperature and oil pressure gauges.  This article is not intended to repeat the details of what other authors have done.  Instead, we intend to show one installation, as an example of a typical gauge installation using parts available from typical Model A mail order catalog sources.  Les Andrews in his book The Model A Mechanic Vol. II has a section on adding a water temperature gauge, however, does not cover the installation of an oil pressure gauge.  

 

Why Add Water Temperature and Oil Pressure Gauges?

 

In the 1930s and today, many owners have simply added a “Moto-Meter” which attaches to the radiator filler neck, and records the air temperature above the water circulating in the upper tank of the radiator.  However, particularly in Colorado, this method of water temperature tracking is not really indicative of your engine performance.  As discussed in an article on the operation of the Moto-Meter, also published on this website, by the time you see the red indicator, its too late, the water is already boiling and flashing into steam.  Fortunately, there is a solution.  A continuous temperature monitoring gauge, located in the passenger/driver compartment,  allows the driver to monitor the water temperature at any time, and pull off the road before the water in the radiator begins to boil.  If you are restoring a “show” car, you can stop reading right here, since water temperature gauges were not provided on the original Model A Ford.  On the other hand, if you want to really know what your engine temperature is, and want that extra measure of safety, read on.

 

Many owners of restored Model A Fords do not see the need for an oil pressure gauge which indicates only that the pump is putting out about 3 psi.  However, for  peace of mind” and to make an “elegant” installation, I decided to add an oil pressure gauge.  Model A owners in the 1930s recognized the need for an oil pressure gauge and many were offered as after market accessories.  To show that there is “nothing new under the sun” ,  some manufacturers offered  lights that flash, or turn on when the pressure is low or gone, a forerunner of the “Idiot” lights of the 1960s and 1970s (aren’t we glad that fad is over!!!).  Today, many owners still wish to have this “peace of mind” and believe that the addition of an oil pressure gauge is beneficial.  Since the addition of the oil pressure gauge was rather inexpensive, and I was going to have all the work to add a water temperature gauge anyway, it seemed logical to add the oil pressure gauge at the same time.

 

With regard to authenticity, there were several types of gauges available in the 1930s as aftermarket additions.  Fortunately for us, one of these gauge sets are still available which are reproductions of the types used in the early years of the Model A.  You can add a set of these gauges without ruining the “look” of the old Model A.  

 

Why Write this Article?

 

We seek to expand on the information others have provided on this topic, and discuss one way to add these gauges to your Model A. While this is not the only way to add gauges, it does so using readily available parts, and provides some insight to problems you may incur in the installation of the temperature gauge.

Types of Water Temperature and Oil Pressure Gauges

 

You can obtain single temperature gauges and oil pressure gauges at most of the common auto parts suppliers, either in town or on the Internet.  These generally come with a mounting bracket which you will need to modify to work with the Model A.  Alternatively, the Model A parts suppliers catalogs offer both reproduction Moto-Meters and continuous monitoring gauges which are based on aftermarket designs available during the production of the Model A and after. The aftermarket reproductions of the Moto-Meter are quite good.  The “Quail” aftermarket radiator ornament is also offered with a type of measurement tool similar to the Moto-Meter.   The aftermarket continuous monitoring temperature gauges are generally reproductions of Rex-a-Co gauges offered in 1931 by the Rex Accessories Co. of Racine Wisconsin.  These gauges today are manufactured by Stewart Warner and are of high quality.

 

Water Temperature Gauges

 

There are two ways to measure the water temperature in your Model A engine.  The first is easy.  A Moto-Meter can be added to the radiator neck which is visible through the windshield.  This meter, does not measure the temperature of the water, but instead samples the temperature of the air above the water circulating in the upper radiator tank.  As such the Moto-Meter does not give an accurate reading, or in some instances, any reading at all.  Depending on the altitude and your driving habits, the red indicator may not show in the “window” when the Model A is operating normally.  If the engine begins to overheat, while climbing a long hill, or sitting in a parade without moving much, the water in the radiator upper tank will flash into steam, causing the Moto-Meter to instantly show the red indicator in the “window”.  However, by this time it is too late, and your car will be boiling, causing water and steam to emit from the radiator filler neck.

 

The second method provides an accurate measurement of the water itself.  A probe is inserted into the water stream being pumped from the engine head into the upper radiator tank.  This probe provides a means to move a pointer on a gauge which is installed in the passenger/driver compartment.  Several means for mounting this gauge are available.  These gauges were available in the 1930s.  The use of this type of gauge is recommended so that the owner can monitor the engine outlet water temperature, and shut down the engine prior to severe overheating, with the possibility of damaging an expensive engine.

 

The continuous measuring water temperature gauge works on an old non-electric principle.  The probe consists of a hollow spring enclosed in a waterproof housing.  The probe and the tube leading from the tube into the passenger/driver compartment are filled with alcohol under pressure.  When the probe is exposed to changing temperatures, the alcohol expands or contracts, thus moving a small column of alcohol in the tube leading from the probe to the gauge indicator.  This expansion in the tube causes the dial indicator to move.  Calibration at the factory of the internal probe spring and the dial at various pressures (temperatures) allows accurate measurement of the water temperature.

 

Oil Pressure Gauge

 

Many Model A owners today consider an oil pressure gauge to be an extra cost nuisance and not necessary.  Generally, this thought comes from  Henry did not think it necessary” and that “the oil pressure is so low why bother”.  While I understand this line of thinking, consider that a gauge will assure you that some oil is indeed circulating in the system.  The common practice in the 1930s was to add an oil pressure gauge, if only for the “peace of mind” that you get from seeing some indication on the gauge dial.  Dykes Motor Manual published in 1929 says “It is a good idea to have a gauge for the following reasons.  The gauge will provide an indication of the range of oil pressure during driving.  Too low a pressure at a normal speed can indicate that the engine has run too long with the “choker” on.  Too high a pressure will cause abnormal oil consumption.  A high reading can indicate that the system has a blockage  A fluctuating oil pressure indication at a constant speed can indicate a need to add oil.”

 

There are two types of oil flow indicators.  The first, not often seen, is called a “sight feed” gauge.  This type is generally mounted on the dash, and has an inlet and an outlet pipe attached.  The “sight feed” type does not actually measure the pressure, but instead allows the driver to visually inspect that there is oil flowing through a glass tube in the gauge.  

 

The second type is the more common oil pressure gauge.  This gauge operates on the principle of compressing air in a “Bourdon Tube”.  The Bourdon Tube is attached to a long tube connected to the output of the oil pump.  In the Model A oil pressure accessory, this attachment is to a fitting in the block, directly below the carburetor.  The tube is routed up and through the wiring terminal block, into the passenger/driver compartment to the gauge.  In operation, the oil at low pressure will fill to about ¼ the length of the pipe leading to the gauge, at high speeds, the oil will be about ¾ of the way up the pipe.  This movement of oil, compresses the air in the tube, and in a thin metal expanding tube in the gauge itself.  The greater the speed of the oil pump (the engine) the greater the compression of the air.  This compression causes the Bourdon tube to straighten out operating a lever, which is calibrated to cause a pointer to register the pressure in the output of the oil pump.  The higher the engine RPM the higher the pressure reading. What I have experienced is that when the engine is cold, the pressure may be 10 psi or even more pinning the meter.  As the engine warms up, this rapidly decreases to about 3 psi at 1200 RPM to 6 psi at 2250 RPM.  During idling conditions, with the engine warm, the pressure is about  1.5 psi.

 

The oil pressure gauge is easily installed on a Model A, and reproduction gauges provided in the 1930s are available.  If you are going to add a water temperature gauge, it makes sense to add an oil pressure gauge at the same time.

Reproduction Gauges

 

There are good reproductions of authentic Model A aftermarket temperature measurement gauges available by mail-order and over the internet.  While there were at least 5 manufacturers of water and oil pressure gauges during the Model A manufacturing years and after, there is only one now available.  These gauges are manufactured by Stewart Warner, and duplicate the design of the old Rex Accessory Company’s combination Oil Gauge and Heat Indicator.  The original Rex-A-Co gauges advertisement is shown below.

 

 

The above at was taken from a magazine in March 1931.

 

Alternatively, if you are not so interested in reproduction parts, you can obtain both oil and temperature gauges at most auto parts suppliers and adapt them to your car.

Mounting Options

 

I reviewed Les Andrews book on temperature gauge installation, and decided that I wanted to both have a reproduction gauge, and that I wanted to have both a temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.  I found that there are two mounting options.  You can attach to gauges to the steering column, either singly, or by using a bracket that puts one gauge on each side of the steering column.  There is also a bracket which will allow you to mount a gauge under or on top of the steering column.  Alternatively, you can add either a single gauge or a set of both oil pressure and water temperature gauges directly below the current instrument cluster.  In the 1930s the predominant method was to add the gauges directly below the instrument cluster, although some owners probably mounted them on the steering column.

 

I was interested in authenticity so I chose reproduction gauges and to add the gauges directly below the instrument cluster as was done in the early 1930s.  If you have long legs you may also want to use the under instrument cluster approach, due to limited mounting room under the steering wheel.  I found that my knees would bang up against the instruments while driving.


 

The finished installation is shown below.

 

 

The installation of the gauges was facilitated by the purchase of a bracket supplied by Bert’s Model A Center.  There are two versions available that will hold two gauges.  One is chrome plated, the other is unpainted.  I originally intended to get the chrome plated version, but due to a slight mixup, I ended up with the unpainted version.  After contemplating whether or not to send it back, I decided to paint it black instead.  Now, I am very happy with the results. The visual appearance is great, and not to overwhelming, you may want to consider this option prior to purchasing the bracket.  Be sure to install the brackets, gauges etc. before attaching the probe to the engine.

 

Several things that I found I needed to do when installing the gauges in the driver/passenger compartment.  You need two longer screws to attach the instrument cluster and the gauge  bracket to the dash.  I found suitable stainless steel screws at Home Depot.  If you decide on the black (or some other color) bracket you will need to paint the sides of the gauges, since they are quite visible from both outside and inside the car.  Finally, the gauges are supplied with a light in each one for viewing during night driving.  The gauges come with 12V bulbs, therefore, if you have a -6V system you need to change the bulbs to 6V.  You can wire them in parallel with the instrument cluster light and use the on/off switch in that device to turn on and off the gauge lights.  For more information on control of the gauge lights see my article on accessory wiring and control, elsewhere on this website.

A close up view of the gauges and the mounting is shown in the photo below.

 

How to Interface to the Water Temperature Gauge

 

To install the temperature gauge shown above you need a means of getting the temperature probe into the water stream at the outlet of the engine.  Several means of doing this have been developed by others such as:

 

1)      Drill and Tap the existing water outlet fitting to interface to the probe.

2)      Use a specially made water outlet fitting with a fitting drilled and tapped

3)      Use an aftermarket steel pipe which has a raised boss which is inserted in the upper radiator hose.

 

Any of these means can be used.  The easiest and best looking way is to purchase an aftermarket water outlet fitting.  Bert’s Model A Center will be getting these, but none are available now.  The second easiest is to purchase the steel tube, cut the upper radiator hose into two slightly shorter sections, and insert the probe interface tube between these sections.  Finally, if you have the right equipment, you can remanufacture your own water outlet fitting to accept the probe.  If you attempt this conversion, be sure to weld a boss about ½ to ¾ inch long onto the outlet fitting, before drilling and tapping.  This boss is to ensure that the water temperature probe is contacting the water circulating from the engine to the radiator, but not blocking the water outlet pipe.  The probe is about ½ inch in diameter, if it were inserted without the boss it would go all the way into the pipe and would reduce the flow of the water from the engine to the radiator causing overheating.   In my case I used the aftermarket steel pipe as shown below.  The installation is not as clean looking but it was quick and easy.  If you are more finicky about the look of the installation wait for the Bert’s new water inlet pipe that has a boss already welded onto it and a hole drilled and tapped to accept the probe.   This method is not as “clean” looking as the drilled and tapped water output fitting. A good picture of the modified water outlet fitting with the boss and the probe is shown in Les Andrews book.  However, at the time of this writing there are none of these currently available, and the aftermarket probe interface tube is quick and easy.

 

Probe Installation

 

 

In the above view you can clearly see the probe (brass color) screwed into the aftermarket pipe.  In Les Andrews book, he shows the capillary tube (the tube filled with alcohol) being routed above the engine, and near the spark plug wires and unsupported for the length of the engine.  This installation, is to be avoided.  It is possible that the tube could come in contact with the spark plugs or the spark feed brass conductors.  While the tube is constructed with an outer coating of polyurethane, it is also possible that vibration could cause the polyurethane to be damaged and worn through, exposing the inner metal tube, causing a short of high voltage to the probe and the gauge.  A better means is shown above.  Route the tube (it’s the black cable/tube coming out of the probe) up and along one of the radiator support rods.  Secure the tube to the rod in several places with electrical tape and/or a tie wrap.

 

Problems with Installation

 

No big problems were incurred with the installation with the exception of inserting the aftermarket probe interface tube into the upper radiator hose.  The problem arose because I also purchased a new set of radiator hoses from Vintque Inc. at the same time.  During the installation,  I fit checked the probe interface tube to the old radiator hose (Gates).  It seemed to go in OK.  When assembling the steel probe interface tube to the NEW  Vintique radiator hose I cut an approximate 1 inch length of hose out of the middle of the radiator hose to accommodate the probe (see the photo above).  I then attempted to pre assemble the probe interface tube to the two new sections of the upper radiator hose.  Arrrgggh, …. there was no way the probe interface tube would fit into the NEW Vintique radiator hose.  I tried everything, lubricating with various oils, soaps and other stuff.  I tried trimming some of the inner material of the hoses to get a funnel shape.   Arrrggggh … nothing worked.   Then out came the dial calipers to measure the parts.  Here is what I found.  The diameter of the aftermarket steel tube had a swaged bulb on each end of the tube.  The diameter of this bulb was much larger than the inside diameter of the Vintique radiator hose, causing the interference condition.

 

 

The old plyable Gates hose would interface to the probe with some difficulty, but the NEW hard and rigid Vintique hose could not.  The reason is that the larger diameter of the steel tube causes a 0.145 inch of aftermarket probe tube OD interference with the 2.015 inch diameter ID of the NEW Vintique hose and prevented all attempts to assemble.  The aftermarket probe interface tube has swaged bulbs on each end.  This causes the tube OD to be larger in diameter than the body.  The solution is to cut off about 7/16 inch on each end of the interface tube eliminating the bulbs.

 

By the way, NO ONE mentions that this is a problem … probably many others have found this out AFTER buying the parts, only to get frustrated and get out the hacksaw.

 

The results of the surgery are shown  below.

 

 

After cutting the aftermarket probe interface tube and lubricating the radiator hose it was possible to pre-assemble the two sections of the Vintique radiator hose to the steel probe interface pipe.  After pre-assembly the hose/aftermarket probe interface can be assembled between the water outlet fitting and the upper radiator tank.